DHS official justifies immigration enforcement with St. Augustine’s ‘City of God’

A man seeking asylum from Colombia is detained by federal agents as he attends his court hearing in immigration court at the Jacob K. Javitz Federal Building on Oct. 27, 2025, in New York City. / Credit: Michael M. Santiago/Getty Images

Washington, D.C. Newsroom, Nov 19, 2025 / 05:00 am (CNA).

The U.S. government used Christian philosophy for its justification of immigration enforcement efforts, relying on St. Augustine’s “City of God” as validation.

The “blameless poor” are different from lawbreakers when considering how to interpret Scripture to show charity toward immigrants, a spokesperson for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) said in response to concerns raised by U.S. Catholic bishops about immigration policy.

U.S. bishops said in the Nov. 12 special message: “We oppose the indiscriminate mass deportation of people” and cited Matthew 25, where Jesus Christ told his disciples: “Whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.”

Nate Madden, principal deputy assistant secretary for communications at DHS, said when considering that verse, one should recognize “a key distinction” in how to demonstrate charity “when you’re talking about people who have knowingly broken laws to get somewhere” as opposed to “a much different situation than dealing with the blameless poor who are citizens of the same country.”

He referenced writings by St. Augustine in “City of God” on the compatibility of both justice and mercy, saying the two are not contradictory. Madden, who wears a Benedictine ring, said, in some cases, DHS has to deal with “severe criminals,” and in all cases, “illegal immigration is itself illegal.”

“We have to take into account that laws were broken,” Madden said. He said authorities do ensure the “human dignity” of migrants is protected.

 “We are upholding federal law that’s been in place for 60 years,” he said. “We are upholding federal laws that were justly and duly passed by the United States Congress, by the American people … and none of those laws are unjust.”

The message by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) voiced concerns with deportations, the revocation of some migrants’ temporary protected legal status, and conditions they believe threaten the “God-given human dignity” of migrants.

“Catholic teaching exhorts nations to recognize the fundamental dignity of all persons, including immigrants,” it reads. “We bishops advocate for a meaningful reform of our nation’s immigration laws and procedures. Human dignity and national security are not in conflict.”

The unified message passed during the USCCB’s Fall Plenary Assembly in Baltimore, with 216 bishops voting in favor of the language, five voting against it, and three abstaining. The last time bishops approved a special message was in 2013 in opposition to a federal contraception mandate.

DHS: ‘Your dignity is going to be respected’

Madden said detainees “are going to be treated like a person, and your dignity is going to be respected,” and through the entirety of the proceedings, officials “will respect your human dignity the entire time.”

When asked whether DHS agrees with the bishops that “human dignity and national security are not in conflict,” Madden responded: “Oh, 100% — they’re absolutely compatible.”

“They’re completely in line with what we believe about the human person, what we believe about human liberty, what we believe about human freedom and dignity and rights,” he said. “And that’s exactly what we’re doing. And it’s what we’ve been doing this entire time.”

A specific concern the bishops expressed was “the conditions in detention centers and the lack of access to pastoral care.” Over the past month, a point of contention was the conditions of the facility in Broadview, Illinois, and the inability for clergy to provide Communion to the Catholic detainees.

“People shouldn’t be sleeping next to overflowing toilets,” U.S. District Judge Robert Gettleman said and noted he had not yet taken up the issue of the lights being kept on all the time in the facility.

An ongoing lawsuit alleges unsanitary conditions, inadequate food and water, a lack of personal hygiene products, and no access to pastoral services in violation of the Constitution. While DHS says detainees are only meant to be there for up to 12 hours for processing, detainees testified about remaining there for several days.

Madden said Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) could not accommodate the clergy’s requests for services at Broadview because of safety concerns but that pastoral resources are available at all detention facilities where migrants are held over 72 hours. He rejected the claims of poor conditions, calling them false.

When detainees are transferred to more long-term detention centers, Madden said they have access to pastoral care, doctors, lawyers, medical treatments, and nutritionists.

“The entire time that everyone is in ICE custody, they are having their immediate needs [met], whether that’s health, lawyers, medical, food,” he said. “Everything is being met.”

‘We are upholding federal law’

U.S. bishops objected to the large-scale deportation efforts, which Madden said is simply an enforcement of federal laws. 

Madden noted that President Donald Trump has offered an opportunity to self-deport, which will allow a person to leave the country without going through the deportation proceedings, provide them with a stipend, and allow them to seek a legal pathway back into the United States if they wish.

He said that policy is “incredibly humane” and grants mercy to people who are in the country illegally. 

“This administration cares deeply about the intrinsic human dignity of everybody it comes in contact with,” Madden said. “Whether you are a citizen, whether you are somebody in our custody who is being removed from the country, you have that dignity … [and] that worth just simply by being made in the image of God and this administration respects and upholds that.”

Pope Leo XIV has also spoken about deportations and immigration enforcement in the United States.

On Nov. 18, the pontiff urged Americans to listen to the message from the bishops, and said many migrants who lack legal status “are living good lives, and many of them for 10, 15, 20 years” and the government should not “treat them in a way that is extremely disrespectful.”

In his October papal exhortation Dilexi Te, the pope reminded that the Church Fathers recalled “that the Gospel is proclaimed correctly only when it impels us to touch the flesh of the least among us, and warning that doctrinal rigor without mercy is empty talk.”